PS3 and 360 are pretty much computers, you can run all of these high graphic games….But what about the game play? Just holding a controller? Pressing X? B? Triangle? Very fun…Making people sit on their butts and playing video games, how fun is that…But for Wii, Sitting is optional, yet not rarely done! Wii has people moving with the game. Hand swiping..jabbing and what not, although people who don’t handle it proper can get injured…maybe it’s because they are use to just setting their controller on the ground and pushing buttons. Please, also refer to me a Sony system or a Microsoft system that has a touch screen?

Nintendo is a true gaming company…Just because it looks good and sounds good make it just a screensaver…Wii is truly a 3rd generation system, it may not have good graphics, good sound, or cool games, it’s still revolutionary in the ways of originality…On the other side, PS3 and 360 pretty much kept the same controls. But wait! they booster their memory, gave them a hard drive, I dunno Gave it 4 cylinders so you can drive it to work on high gas mileage? I doubt it…Microsoft and Sony are about the 4D graphics, Surround sound and 7 billion watt outlets…for a PS3 and 360, you need to spend and extra $1,000 for a TV to go with it. But a Wii looks the same on any TV, making it a high seller for it’s low prices, Wii’s prices are set low because I doubt they are going any lower.

Final words; PS3s and 360s are for the kids and adults who lives with their parents while Wii is for those people who actually own a business suit and a briefcase. Tell me, do you know of any adults who actually have a high paying job that own a PS3 or 360 and have not had any help in building it? List me 3 and we’ll talk. So PS3 and 360 are for those people who are into sex, blood, killing and whatever. Which makes senators want to pass bills that ban games. while Nintendo…I don’t think has even shown anything more then a thigh LOL.

PS3,360= Sad people who like virtual women more then real life women…
Wii= Mature people who actually play games that are healthy and get into bed with their lover to use that healthiness they gained from the Wii. Swiping motions for butt spanking or jabbing for…other things LOL

Catitude, if you can restate your point without the rampant foul language, feel free.

Ron Whitaker
News Manager
Gaming Today @ FileFront.com

Well William I wasn’t calling you names I was making a play on words from Bill Clinton speeches. I am not here to hurt your feelings. You had your opinion and I have mine. I do want to clear up a few of your statements.

“Considering the hardcore gamers are the ones who are going to spend the higher amounts for games and systems, the software developers are smart to listen to them.”

Hardcore gamers by definition demand longer more complex games to master and play. The spend most of there leisure time playing games. They are by the latest polls often lower income people. How does that translate into spending more on games? The vast majority of PS2 games were not in the hardcore catagory yet the majority of XBox games were. If your theory was correct the XBox should have killed the PS2. Yet the PS2 was more successful and profitable on the back of casual gamers. The PC platform was the core system for hardcore gaming. Very little of what was developed was for casual gamers. I believe that I own more games then any hardcore gamer I know not counting the PC.

“It’s about the games. In my opinion it is not the best and I’m not going to lie to make a few people happy. I will always says exactly how I feel about something. I don’t understand how you could possibly say it’s the software at this point. The one thing the Wii lacks is a well rounded library of games. For now, it’s a combination of hype, master marketing and basically original peripherals and some games.”

You do have an opinion and I believe you are wrong. The Wii is the only system with a well rounded software library. Take a look at what the other systems have to offer. Madden was pretty, but it didn’t even have Madden in it. Wii has sports, racing games, FPS, platform games, party games, Music oriented games coming out, kids games, adult games. The only hype in this market is Hi-Def gaming and online play. This has been a staple of PC gaming for ten years. Master marketing? Nentendo spent the least amount of money saying only that you will have fun. The people buying the game along with word of mouth is selling the Wii. The main complaint I heard with the 360 is the lack of original games. Everything looks better but its all XBox 2.0. In my home I have a Madden 07, Legend of Zelda, Resident Evil, Mario Party 8, Red Steel, Sonic, the bigs,mario strikers, Dragon Ball Z, Godfather, Excite Truck, SSX, Mortal Kombat, Super Paper Mario, Brain Age, Elebits, Along with a host of VC games. If that’s not well rounded I don’t know what is. The only catagory I left out was a flying game. (I refuse to do a game on a console that plays better on a PC FPS excluded due to wii remote)

I think that we could talk about this for years and it will all come down to an opinion. I had this same arguement with the XBox PS2 Gamecube. My prediction to the hardcore gamers then was PS2 by a landslide with a Gamecube XBox tie for last. My arguement then is the same as now. Hardcore gamers can’t sustain a system and run innovative game development. My prediction this time, Wii, PS3 and 360 in a tie.

Myth #1 — “The Wii is making all of its money off children.” — I attend a university and work at Best Buy. My wife and I own a Wii, and we have no kids. Our married neighbors have a Wii and no kids. I know a dozen other married couples who own Wii and either have no kids or have an infant whose arms and legs do not even function yet. At Best Buy, people come in all the time requesting a Wii. Of those people, some are parents of younger kids, but most are guys ranging in age from 18 to 26 who saved up their own money in hopes of getting their hands on one. When I ask them, the Wii is always for themselves, not some child they have back home. If anything, Nintendo has the added market of kids (thus making more money on top of the adult crowd), unlike Sony and Microsoft.

Myth #2 — “The Wii is nothing more than a Gamecube 2.0!” — I find this argument extremely amusing. OK, so the Wii’s graphics firepower is barely on par with the original XBox. According to the “hardcore masses”, graphics are all it takes for a game to be awesome. All I can say is this: thank the heavens for game rental stores. I have played my fair share of games that look amazing but play horribly. Let us not forget that the Wii has a Bluetooth, WiFi, USB, and (for the first time for Nintendo) a hard drive. Those are all things that the Gamecube did not feature. I could easily say that “PS3 is nothing more than PS2 2.0″ or “XBox 360 is nothing more than XBox 2.0″. Nintendo simply chose to upgrade in areas aside from graphics.

Myth #3 — “The Wii controls are gimmicky at best.” — This one takes the cake. Wii’s control scheme is the whole reason it is whipping both the PS3 and XBox 360 in sales. I personally believe that the standardized dual analog stick controller is gimmicky and overused. So, why is it still around? Because IT WORKS. It is the same for the Wii remote and nunchuk. They are doing well today because they work! Also, people often forget that Nintendo has both bases covered. Did you know that Wii games can take advantage of Gamecube controllers? That means that if by some mystical turn of events the Wii remote dropped in popularity, Nintendo could continue on making “classic control” games by means of the ‘cube controller. There, you have your dual analog controls back… happy? XD

@Neon – “Holy Trinity” = Win

Gotta say though, I don’t quite think Sonic and Mario at the Olympics is going to be….anywhere near good. Might be entertaining for its crapness value of course

After all I can only digest so many FPSs a year, yeah I’m talking about you 360. Anyways, the Wii offers more variety of gaming experiences when comparing all three systems. I do wish there we4re a few more FPSs on the Wii though, but Metroid will soon fill the First Person craving I have for the system though. My systems of choice are Wii and 360, with Wii leading in my household.

Metroid Prime 3, Battalion Wars 2, Fire Emblem 10, Super Mario Galaxy, NiGHTS, Mario & Sonic at the Olympics, Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Wii Music and more that I can’t think off the top of my head.

Of all of these I think that Fire Emblem and Battalion Wars 2 are the most hardcore games out there. You have to be hardcore to know how great they are.

But this is going to be a big year for Ninty. We have the “Holy Trinity” plus other great games for the hardcore crowd.

Also on a side note, Aunouma (spellin?) said that in Phantom Hourglass there is a dungeon where casual gamers have an easier time than hardcore gamers. Well I thought it was neat…

But anyway, the Wii is a great system. Sure the game drought right now is so booooring, but starting in August things will start to heat up.

The fact that Zelda also isn’t an RPG, of which they are usually considered to be pretty hard-core and has game-play lengths of usually quite a long time and that Zelda can sometimes equal this length says that Zelda, as just one of many examples, provides a good repetoire of hard-core gaming for the Wii/Nintendo.

I think the Wii will be remembered of bringing ‘fun’ back into gaming. Not just the rewarding feeling of completing the game, I mean actual enjoyment fun each time you play it. That being said, Sonic and the Secret Rings isn’t being that fun at the mo You need to be pretty hard-core to get everything in that and boy am I trying!

Zelda and Metroid are casual for the most part.. casual doesn’t mean “not challenging” in my book.

The way things are right now, i think the Wii holds on to their spot with the neat peripherals. If they start cranking out more games like the ones I mentioned above, then things could change. I don’t have a 100% idea about anything.. at this point things could change by the end of the year or next year.

What I do know is that Nintendo has some work ahead of them.. it’s not clear sailing like some people think and they absolutely need some sort of upgraded Wii out by next year even if it’s just a memory upgrade or something like that.

I think the problem with the debate over casual and hard core games is the definition and everyone has a different one. When I mention hard core, I’m talking about games that are common in competition. If you can play a game professionally then I say it’s automatically a hard core game. If it’s something that is only played with friends and family, it’s more on the casual side of things.

It just all depends on the definition used. There really are no clear rules in this industry.

http://news.filefront.com/bleach-shattered-blade-nintendo-wii-trailer/

watching this trailer bumped my opinion of the system up a notch.

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Joelton, I agree that a trend needs to be replaced and actually that’s what has kept the Wii up for so long. I simply cannot consider it a serious system right now. Perhaps if they form corporate sponsored teams to compete in Wii games, then I can see a little more legitimacy to the hard core claims some people make for the system.

Honestly, I see it as a fun idea and a system with some potential. Games like Zelda, Metroid, Mario etc. are the heart and soul of Nintendo and extremely fun games, but still very casual in nature. There’s nothing wrong with that.

I actually play flash games on the web daily.. also an extremely casual activity. Some people believe that the hard core gamers don’t matter that much because they are in the minority, but they really do matter. Who subscribes to all the magazines and takes the gambles on systems early in the game? Of course it’s the hard core people. The casual gamers drive the sales in the end, but everyone has their place.

I also think the difference between casual and hardcore will eventually merge into one another in the future. If things keep going the way they are, more and more casual gamers will become hardcore by default.

There’s definitely a competitiveness with this generation that hasn’t been seen since the Sega Genesis took on Nintendo years ago and I think it’s a good thing…definitely not something to take too personal though. There really is a unique quality or qualities to all 3 systems out right now.

If it’s a trend, what is there to replace it?

For one trend to go, it needs to be replaced. There is no trend to replace the Wii in that field at the moment.

Still living in denial, huh? Grow up.