“We Remove Vista; We Install XP”
By William on Thursday, January 31st, 2008 at 11:02 AM PST In Gamer Life
Sometimes, photos say it all. The above image was taken outside a computer shop in Milford, New Hampshire. The shop claims that it was prompted to display the sign considering how many people were upset with the switch to Vista. Compatibility issues and trouble adjusting to a new interface has been a problem for many Vista owners. As far as gaming goes, I know a lot of people who still prefer XP over Vista, but you simply will not have a choice in the future. Vista is the way Microsoft is going and there will be no support for XP in the near future.
“As far as gaming goes, I know a lot of people who still prefer XP over Vista, but you simply will not have a choice in the future.”
PC gamers ALWAYS have a choice. Like me. I choose to wait on Windows 7 rather than put myself through the grief of Vista. Although depending on how the first service pack is for Vista, I may change my mind. See, choice at work!
The real problem is going to be with DirectX support. Future games will pretty much require Vista to even play, considering there will be no DirectX support for XP.
Don’t want to promote piracy…. but there will always be some XP copies in torrents (or wherever you can download) … so i dont think microsoft can win this if users impose their choices and, in addition, i saw a lot of people who want to switch to other OS (like Unbuntu, Mac Os, ect…) after the stop of XP distribution.
Things will be interesting in a near future.
What Microsoft will do ? What users will do ?
And about that DirectX thing… hackers are on their way to make a directx compatibility through XP.
If I bought an OEM version of XP can I get an upgraded price version of Vista in the future. I like XP but since I plan on upgrading my computer I want to know what my options are. I hear a lot of people complaining about Vista and not getting things working. Right now my computer works just fine it’s just not game worthy which is ok.
Manufacturers like Dell and HP still offer XP as an Operating System option when configuring new business class workstations. I configure them all the time. What really sucks is that if you are in a Windows domain environment and for whatever reason you can’t get a PC pre-installed with XP you have to buy Vista Business and then remove it and install XP Pro.
I’m a Mac guy myself. I wouldn’t trade my G5 for anything in the world… but we do have a PC in the house with Vista on it. One thing that angered me is that no matter what I do, I can’t get Game Tap to work on the Vista computer, so I just play Game Tap games on my Mac. We’re seriously considering switching back to XP for now because of all the issues we have had with Vista.
All these people who smack talk Vista probably haven’t even tried it for gaming. I have found it to be great…yes Vista requires more memory because of its gui and other features but most new games require it to run (dx10). And if you have played any dx10 games you won’t want to head back to xp. Your obviously going to get lower fps on vista that xp but thats why you need to compensate. If you have an older pc of course your going to hate Vista …a new OS should require newer pc for the most part.
ergghh! I refuse to go anywhere near Macs because every fibre of my body just screams ‘STYLE OVER SUBSTANCE STYLE OVER SUBSTANCE!.
Later this year I’m going to be giving my PC a major upgrade and probably getting Dual Xeons, Dual Graphics cards & 4gb Ram.
I just specced up a G5 to the same spec my PC will be and it would cost $6,299.00 (not including tax) which is a total fucking joke because my PC upgrades will cost me about $3,500 (including tax).
I am also a Mac guy. XP is great, Vista is not so good. i own a new PC purchaced with Vista, would rather XP over Vista, OSX over them both.
I say that if my 3.2 GHZ, 1gb of Ram, GT7300 lecturers PC is too slow to have VISTA running on it then I’m going to keep XP. When are microsoft going to learn that as the PC becomes more and more a consumer item households are not going to buy a new one every year. Households don’t buy a new DVD player every year.
Also my mother-in-law is still using an amd 500 with windows me to do her teaching materials on. OK she isn’t a gamer, but do microsoft even consider some people are comfortable with what they have. Take a leaf out of Nintendo’s book with the Wii.
Norbit: style over substance? Well.. I use Mac because I edit some very large graphic files. I have a PC of equal power, but the Mac simply works better when it comes to editing things, particularly editing numerous things at once. The OS is stable enough to handle so many tasks going on at once. If I tried the same workload on my PC, the OS simply would crash every time.
a perfect example is right now I have around 30 windows in Firefox going, I’m editing several large images in PhotoShop, I have something going in Dreamweaver and I have Maya open (working on some 3-d stuff).
If I tried all that on my PC running Vista, it would crash hard.
I’m definitely not a Mac elitist, but I need it for my art projects. I certainly believe PCs are better for gaming and other tasks.
Hey, all I can say is that I like Vista. It is very stable and supports lots of different options that you just don’t get from XP. These people that have so many problems with Vista is because there is Jello in there head where a brain should be. Yes it was bad to begin with but that was only because there were no real hardware companies that were putting out Vista Drivers. But were are just about past all that now. Hell… NVIDIA’s 8 series drivers are getting released faster than any other series sense the beginning of there first product. It’s always going to be like this, just like the move from 98 to XP (I’m not including ME or 2000, I like to prettend that never happened, lol) So as long as your not trying to run Vista on some 6 year old computer, I don’t see any reason to hate it.
@ William
I have the CS3 Master Collection and I am often working in Photoshop, After Effects or other programs while Premiere Pro is encoding and Vista copes perfectly fine with that and I currently only have a Pentium 4 and 2gb Ram. It also has no problem at all with running Autocad 2008 while encoding video in the background.
Fair enough you find Mac OS works better for you but that doesnt eliminate the fact that the hardware is a total rip off. If you spent $2000 on a Mac and $2000 on a PC the PC would be the faster machine. When I upgrade my PC later this year it will have as much processing power as any Mac on sale, it will be completely silent and it will cost about $2k less than the equivalent Mac would.
Mac = Graphics is so Mac Classic of you.
You know I’m pretty sure adobe has released Illustrator for windows.
Sorry I don’t really mean to be sarcastic… but this preconcieved notion that a Mac is needed to be a graphics designer is crazy.
Stick with XP. Vista’s like a battlemech with no weapons and an internal combustion engine instead of a fusion one. XP is a fully armed Atlas. Crippling for a civilian market? Maybe, except the market stayed the same.
I had a free copy of Vista Ultimate laying around, so when I built my new computer last June, I installed it on there. Sure, I’ve had problems with it (but fairly minor ones, at that), but overall it’s got some nice features I really enjoy using, and DX10 support is important for me. I don’t really notice much of a performance hit while playing games (possibly because I’ve got an 8800/4GB RAM), so I really don’t see any reason to not keep using it myself.
If I could, I’d install Vista on the laptop I’m on right now.
That sign doesn’t inspire much confidence in that shop’s services because the guy in it looks like George Bush.
Well, yeah, Vista would work on an 4GB RAM computer, because it probably has all the additional necessary hardware. An 8800 (I’m assuming nVidia) is powerful enough too.
There’s a lot of nonsense written about vista, to be frank.
As mentioned above, early driver issues that no longer exist are still used as a branch with which to beat vista. I’m using Home premium for 3d, photoshop and game developement on a fairly humble machine (e4300,2gb,8600) and find it to be stable, intuitive, secure and aesthetically smooth. According to what I have read from the anti-vista crowd none of the software I use every day works, I should be expecting crashes left right and centre and struggle to do anything I was used to with xp.
I suspect that, like the image above, lack of user knowledge is the cause of most people’s complaints about vista (after all, looking at the image, how much stead would you apply to the opinion of someone who needs to go to a store to get their OS installed?).
For gaming there IS a performance hit (maybe 10-20% depending on which game/engine is running) but if you are a serious gamer you would likely have both the hardware to support that and the understanding of the implications of an OS switch. I guess those who are dissapointed are people who think that a new OS will somehow run better than their current one on 3-5 year old hardware.
I have tried every single route to uninstall vista in order to install xp. I need xp to run my lotus 123 programs (9 of them, all macro driven) but can not install 123 on my laptop (HP compaq 6720S notebook pc, its 2 weeks old). But 123 works perfectly on main dell pc running xp. Its no good trying newer version of 123 as my complicated macro programs dont work, god only knows I have tried. It has been close to 120 hrs of solution hunting for this and know matter what I try, the laptop wont:
a) boot from cd rom (original xp prog).
b) reformat hard drive.
c) fdisk
d) create partitions
PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME.
The problem is that the cd boot must have all sata and sata2 drivers incooperated. I made this work for myself, I have made a dvd now which can boot the ERD comander , install xp, and run ghost for a backup restore. All the different environments have all drivers needed to run on the new notebooks.
Send me an E-Mail and we can discuss directly (Kcarlo@t-online.de)
I removed vista & installed xp dvd plays sound but no picture. Please help!
I vaguely remember XP having a lot of problems when it first came out