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From Wikipedia:

Later, personal computers became common, and became powerful enough to support real-time gaming. This created a mass demand for a particular type of computing power, and microprocessor vendors turned to SIMD to meet the demand. The first widely-deployed SIMD for gaming was Intel’s MMX extensions to the x86 architecture. IBM and Motorola then added AltiVec to the POWER architecture, and there have been several extensions to the SIMD instruction sets for both architectures. All of these developments have been oriented toward support for real-time graphics, and are therefore oriented toward vectors of two, three, or four dimensions. When new SIMD architectures need to be distinguished from older ones, the newer architectures are then considered “short-vector” architectures. A modern supercomputer is almost always a cluster of MIMD machines, each of which implements (short-vector) SIMD instructions. A modern desktop computer is often a multiprocessor MIMD machine where each processor can execute short-vector SIMD instructions.

Having played both systems I’m sure the orange box isn’t suitable anywhere but the PC. In my opinion the 360 is good for people who just don’t have the money (quite understandable), ps3 owners will be more likely to have a pc collecting all the xbox killer apps (imo only GOW, sorry halo fanboys).

Furthermore, I really don’t think many have invested into the current console wars with such a lack of great games about and remain confident there’s a huge market share out there waiting just for mgs4 to drop.

Of course, I bought a dreamcast and thought that too about soul calibur and res evil:code veronica

Wow, quite the flamming PS3 fanboy are we?

Everything you’ve stated about what is “better” is open for debate since you’re clearly basing this on opinion. Those claims of “We only use X% of the Y-console’s power” crack me up regardless of who’s saying them. Those are meaningless jibberish without so much as a shred of evidence ever backing it up. Considering half of the PS3’s so called “power” is pretty much useless to a 3d programmer, I find those claims having even less merit. Then again, we are talking about PR reps here.

Oblivion’s performance issues stem from being designed to run off a hard drive. It’s well known that the game was designed with “streaming” world data as opposed to large “zones” and level loads. It’s really that simple. If they had given a 360 HD installation option, problem solved. A really poor example there on your part.

I’ve seen both Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune and Heavenly Sword in action, and I’ll tell you where they lack: draw distance. To make up for that, they upped the detail per object (which wasn’t a bad tradeoff per se). To say they are the best looking games around is also a matter of opinion. I still find Bioshock visually “better” than either. Uncharted has the lush vegetation thing down. But that’s it. Heavenly Sword has great animation and well done cut scenes (and neat looking waterfalls), but that’s visually where it ends. Bioshock beats them all in both artwork, detail, and overall design. Am I going to go around spouting that it’s the best looking game, period? No. It’s my opinion. I’m not a fanboy, I just call it how I see it.

Let us not forget that both Uncharted and Heavenly Sword were made for the PS3 from the ground up. Recall my “design the game from the ground up with the PS3 hardware in mind”? You can very well bet that’s why those titles succeed at what they do. The same will be for MSG4 and GT5. PS3 is still seeking a “killer” title. Uncharted and Heavenly Sword still aren’t enough to sway most gamers, much less me.

And who said Gears was the best looking game? Another lofty opinion I see. You’ll find stark argument here on what’s “best looking” on any console.

What? No love for CoD4? Funny how you bring up the extreme examples (ones that have no basis for comparison since they are platform exclusive) and not the ones that actually deserve merit. How about Assassin’s Creed?

I swear you are the PS3 equivalent of a 360 fanboy that masturbates in front of the screen with one hand while typing with the other how Halo 3 is superior to everything “just because it is”. That’s the exact zealotness impressionability I get from you every time.

You’ve presented basically nothing but loftless opinion. Come back with some hard evidence that actually has merit and not opinions or PR rubbish. Folding makes PS3 a better gaming machine? Laff.

The PS3 is a hell of a lot more powerful than the 360. Why do you think Microsoft wont allow the 360 to do Folding? Its because it would provide the world with benchmark stats to compare to the PS3 and it would lose badly.

How exactly do you explain the incredible graphics of Ratchet & Clank and Uncharted eh? They are both first year PS3 titles and they look as good if not better than anything released on the 360 in 2 years. How do you explain how Oblivion runs better on the PS3 than the 360 eh? How do you explain why EA said last year they were only using 15% of the PS3’s power yet Capcom said last year that Lost Planet was using 60% of the 360’s? That’s right Steve. Capcom were already using 60% of the 360’s potential just 8 months after launch yet both Naughty Dog and Insomniac are only using between 25% and 30% of the PS3 with Ratchet & Clank and Uncharted. If like you say the 360 is more powerful than the PS3 why was its best looking game (gears of war) released over a year ago?

The Orange Box isnt as good on the PS3 as it is on the PC and 360 for the simple reason that the port was handled by EA while the other 2 versions were made in house by Valve.

I call bull on the vids, PS3 suffered because it was quicksaving, and most games you play, when you’re saving, it pauses for a wee bit until it finishes saving.

The biggest difference between Oblivion on the 360 compared to the PS3 is the area loading. If you watch the clip to the 1:25 mark you will see the 360 stops for a second or so to load the new area while the PS3 has no pause at all. This happens quite often. The reason its doesn’t on the PS3 is because the developers made use of the hard drive which they couldn’t do on the 360 version. Its the kind of thing that wouldn’t harm your enjoyment of the 360 version at all as long as you had never played the PS3 or PC versions. Basically the same as The Orange Box. It isn’t as good as the PC and 360 versions but its still excellent. I think 1up lost a hell of a lot of credibility with their sensationalist and idiotic statement that its ‘unplayable’.

These messy PS3 ports will become a thing of the past soon because the PS3 will become lead SKU for multiplatform 360 and PS3 games. Apart from the ones developed by Gabe Newell of course who believes the PS3 is “a waste of everybody’s time” lol.

Proof?

It’s common knowledge among tech geeks that the PS3 is not faster than the 360 at general purpose math (something every 3d programmer knows is crucial when striving for performance). Of course this depends highly on the application, but in pracice it’s becoming more evident now that the PS3 is too specialized in certain areas (when it needs to be better at everything). Proof?

http://rofl-at.us/?page_id=85

Basically, from what I’ve seen unless you design your game from the ground up with the PS3 architecture in mind you are pretty much screwed. A large advantage of the 360 is that designing a game on it is alot like a PC. Those similarities mean all the tricks and trades of PC programming experience have weight. Not so much for the PS3, which pretty much requires a totally different (almost alien) approach.

The HL2 ports at the individual frame level look identical (which isn’t saying much at such a tiny resolution with massive compression), but it’s clearly obvious the PS3 is suffering from performance problems. Seems like the more complex the scene, the worse things get. Just look at the canal sequence in the video, the framerate on the PS3 is obviously running around 10-15fps. That’s almost a slideshow by today’s standards. What’s sad is my geforce 6800 can put out more framerate than that @ 1080p.

Bad port? How about “Match made in hell”? HL2 and PS3 was never meant to be. Now I see why Gabe made such a big objection about in the first place.