Comments on: The Analog Gamer: Edition Wars http://news.filefront.com/the-analog-gamer-edition-wars/ News for Gamers Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:36:36 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: BearSprite http://news.filefront.com/the-analog-gamer-edition-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-201805 BearSprite Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:13:32 +0000 http://news.filefront.com/?p=31402#comment-201805 Your arguments are correct factually, but they miss one very important point that alters the conclusion. Publishers tend not to re-print earlier editions. Therefore if somebody prefers an earlier edition, it will be harder for him/her to get their hands on a copy, and is the old edition will not have further supplements added published for it. While we certainly all need to be civil about our discussions, and multiple versions of a game is generally a plus, publishers are forcing us to conform to later editions - often unintentionally. Your arguments are correct factually, but they miss one very important point that alters the conclusion. Publishers tend not to re-print earlier editions. Therefore if somebody prefers an earlier edition, it will be harder for him/her to get their hands on a copy, and is the old edition will not have further supplements added published for it. While we certainly all need to be civil about our discussions, and multiple versions of a game is generally a plus, publishers are forcing us to conform to later editions – often unintentionally.

]]> By: Ron Whitaker http://news.filefront.com/the-analog-gamer-edition-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-201797 Ron Whitaker Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:50:54 +0000 http://news.filefront.com/?p=31402#comment-201797 You are correct in saying that there are reasons people are reacting, but that doesn't justify the visceral discussions some people are having. Theoretical discussion is absolutely fine. I'll happily engage in the theoretical discussion of 4e, and where I'd like to see things be a bit different. The difference is that I don't chalk up my edition of choice as being 'the best,' or engaging in hyperbole to attempt to make some point. That's the problem I was referring to, not those who have well-reasoned discussions. You are correct in saying that there are reasons people are reacting, but that doesn’t justify the visceral discussions some people are having. Theoretical discussion is absolutely fine. I’ll happily engage in the theoretical discussion of 4e, and where I’d like to see things be a bit different.

The difference is that I don’t chalk up my edition of choice as being ‘the best,’ or engaging in hyperbole to attempt to make some point. That’s the problem I was referring to, not those who have well-reasoned discussions.

]]> By: Propagandroid http://news.filefront.com/the-analog-gamer-edition-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-201792 Propagandroid Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:25:28 +0000 http://news.filefront.com/?p=31402#comment-201792 The anti-"edition war" backlash often, as above, fails to acknowledge the legitimate conversations taking place about what's different in 4e, why people are viscerally reacting the way they are about it in such large numbers, and what we can learn about roleplaying design and play from its example. Don't paint all theory discussions with the same broad brush. I haven't seen much edition warring going on where I hang out online (or at my own site, where I've been engaging in these discussions); these days it's morphed into more theoretical discussions about definitions of roleplaying and how specific rules systems support or don't support various gaming philosophies. These are useful and productive discussions, but it's easy to see how 4e players would be on the defensive after what they've been going through. --Prop The anti-”edition war” backlash often, as above, fails to acknowledge the legitimate conversations taking place about what’s different in 4e, why people are viscerally reacting the way they are about it in such large numbers, and what we can learn about roleplaying design and play from its example. Don’t paint all theory discussions with the same broad brush.

I haven’t seen much edition warring going on where I hang out online (or at my own site, where I’ve been engaging in these discussions); these days it’s morphed into more theoretical discussions about definitions of roleplaying and how specific rules systems support or don’t support various gaming philosophies. These are useful and productive discussions, but it’s easy to see how 4e players would be on the defensive after what they’ve been going through.

–Prop

]]> By: Ian http://news.filefront.com/the-analog-gamer-edition-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-201791 Ian Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:23:42 +0000 http://news.filefront.com/?p=31402#comment-201791 Yep, good points. For the record, though, Superman would win, original Traveller is the best, and D&D 4E is ... wait. *Actually reads article and realization dawns* Ye-eah, okay, I see what you're saying. ;-) Yep, good points. For the record, though, Superman would win, original Traveller is the best, and D&D 4E is … wait. *Actually reads article and realization dawns* Ye-eah, okay, I see what you’re saying. ;-)

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