I don’t trust the average Source player with FF on, though. I’ve only been playing source games for the last couple months, coming from Wolfenstein: ET, and the difference in the communities and behavior is night and day. In ET having FF on was standard and expected, and griefing was rare in spite of that.

Yeah, I’m worried about the dissolution of FF. This leads me to believe that TF2 beta games are full of people who come from an Unreal Tournament background. If you want a spamfest game with click happy noobs, go play a UT game. Leave my TF with FF on, as it is the way TF was meant to be played. Shooting teammates to detect spies WAS an integral part of the original TF. Take away FF, then the paranoia of “who is a spy?” looses its effect.

You don’t shoot your teammate with a rocket to find out if they are spy, dumbasses.

Now making FF standard for console owners I’m fine with. I can’t aim worth a shit with a 360 controller. So there is some justification there at least.

FF should be left a server option with a set default. I don’t care what the default is, as I’m joining the FF servers anyway. Geez, TF2 is dumbed down enough already.