p.s. u so hawt….

Yeah, It’s not like Obama taught constitutional law at a law school.

Oh….wait….

I guess that’s why he voted for the Patriot Act.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00025
http://www.ontheissues.org/International/Barack_Obama_Homeland_Security.htm

It’s really strange how the cold war anti-communist and anti-socialist fear is still believed by so many people. So many people I know believe that if we have socialized medicine that all of a sudden we’ll become some sort of fascist society without freedom. Visit Canada or Europe sometime. They actually have more personal freedoms than we do.

I admit, a bit of everything is better than all one way or another, but not every one needs healthcare and not everyone wants it. Even those who may need it may turn it down in favor of holistic health care, or just choose to go without (i.e. Childbirthing).

But if you look at Hillary Clinton, and take note how she served under the head of the Communist party, I don’t think she wants a mix to preserve this spice of life.

I think we’re dealing with a slippery slope here.

And in forty years you’ll be bitching about having to pay for that expensive operation you can’t afford.
Try to look a little farther than your own nose, and try to think ahead also. What about your kids, hmmm?
We have a lot of social things here in Canada, and I don’t think the state has been killing thousands to do it either.
Open your mind a little. All of one or all of the other isn’t good, but a bit of everything would be best.

(Plus internet debates like this are retarded everyone fights with out a face.. so they have the balls to say things they normaly wouldnt with no consequence to doing so.)

And Weclock i always knew you had some problems… But seriously do you want Regression ? Because if we dont get any progression thats whats gonna start happening soon… as more countrys pass us up.

I do think people should try to earn their lunch, which I have always done, but I don’t see a problem with helping out those less fortunate than us. If you take care of everyone in a society (even the poor), it pays off in the end. Right now we have infant mortality rates in the United States on par with 3rd world countries. There’s simply no excuse for the unfair division of money and power in this country right now.

As far as immigration goes, the way it’s being done, is illegally.
therefore it’s immoral, a sin against God.
And before you say “but I don’t believe in God!”
Look at those immigrants who do.

William, I don’t want progression.
These universal ideas aren’t new, they’ve been around for a long time.
first implemented by Mussolini and many other facists from Europe.

If you want a good life, you’re entitled to it, but you have to work for it. There is no free lunch.
And as I stated previously, I don’t want health care. I might sign up for it when I ask to get my vasectomy, but until then I don’t need it. I’m 21 years of age (todays my birthday actually), and I’d rather keep the money for childcare rather than paying for health insurance for myself. I’m healthy, I’m fine.

“progression” and socialism are very much related to communism.
They want to bring every one up to the same level, but they realize slowly but surely that they can’t so the same level gets lower, and lower.

That’s why the U.S.S.R. failed.
They’ll be no more rich! just a bunch of really poor people.

Yeah like the non-interventionism that let Britian get bombed into near submission by Nazi Germany. The non-interventionism that let Hitler dominate western Europe. Yeah if thats non-interventionism I, and I think most of America want no part of it.