Just so you guys know; wii fanboys = core gamers; you know the ones you complain about… their quite a few of them aren’t there.

Seriously that brawl sales beating out the pinicle of “core” in its own region (Devil May Cry) on the worlds major “core” consoles (Xbox360 & PS3) must of been like a tall glass of stfu. But I’m sure 2008 is going to host more hack-writers looking for clicks and google spots, frustrated publishers who can’t see outside of the box, and lazy developers who want to rehash their ps2/Xbox engines instead of making new ones.

Talk about something more constructive – like how Nintendo is sharing their intelligence with 3rd parites now, and that they released new dev tool kits for online play.

Seriously, do you feel satisfied making articles like this? I know we all have to take the Good, the Bad and the Ugly from time to time – but I dont understand how you can still make articles like this in late 2007.

Wii is good and all but I still love my Ps3 thats just me, but I would get an Xbox too… articles like these are a shame to all writers who could of had your job and have done it better.

Unless of course this is your hobby and this is your blog – then do what you want, your the one paying the bills… I’ll just avoid this site.

The Wii appeals to hard core gamers just as much as the PS3 and 360 do.
The Wii has Super Mario Galaxy, Resident Evil, and many other games like that.

And, Super Smash Brothers will NEVER EVER be on the PS3 or 360. EVER.
Its a Nintendo only franchise, so stop getting your hopes up.

Brawl will only be on the Wii. ONLY FOR Wii.

Wii IS AWESOME! AND HARDCORE!

Something like that. But seriously, I think its easier for the younger kids to accept LIVE because they haven’t had years upon years of free online gaming to poison their perceptions of what is worth charging for. I just think the user experience on LIVE is nice but totally unnecessary and that they should not force people, who simply want to game online, to pay money for a bunch of advanced features that they may or may not want. I understand some people love those features, but I guarantee that if basic online multiplayer was added to LIVE silver, there would be VERY FEW gold subscribers.

“Wii is nice and all, where you play only with friends and all that stuff ”

I have several Wii games that I take online and I don’t usually play with people I know. You can play anyone online, for free, with no friend codes. The friend codes are only to play with people already know in real life.

No, I don’t like friend codes, but I’m willing to put up with them for a free online service. The Wii online is solid and lag free. Wireless out of the box is really nice. I’ve been gaming online for free for over a decade. As cool at LIVE is, its just not worth the money for the extra bells and whistles. Wii and PSN online are both plenty good enough even though they are not technically the BEST services. To me FREE is the best service, as long as it works, which LIVE has had more trouble with than the other two.

I think it’s the people who are hardcore, not the games themselves.
If you play Wiisports for 4 hours every day, people would argue “that game isn’t hardcore” but the person plays it hardcore.

It’s taking casual gamers and turning them hardcore.
It’s broadening the interests of hardcore gamers by increasing the number of hardcore gamers.

Believe me, the PSN will not be free forever. It’s free now because it has to be.

I’ve downloaded Breath of Fire 2 and Shining Force, and I’ve already milked 60+ hours out of the 16 bucks I spent on them together. Add in 200+ hours for Zelda TP, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Paper Mario, Metroid Prime 3, Zack and Wiki, and Endless Ocean. Is still don’t have the time to get everything in those games, and I probably never will – and I have to deal with all the new releases coming out this year.

Oh yeah, add in a bajillion hours spent with friends on Wario Ware and Wii Sports.

Is the Wii hardcore? Yes, it is hardcore as hell. As hardcore as a stripper snorting coke in the ghetto.

“…Nintendo not trying to reinvent the wheel with their online play, they should simply recreate XBox Live.”

I got rid of Xbox because of Xbox Live. Yearly fees and online play with people who want to tell you about the glue they just sniffed, is not my idea of fun. I do not want Nintendo to jump on the bandwagon and do what everyone else is doing. The world is full of sheep waiting to see what the other sheep are doing.

Nintendo’s Friend Codes is great. It’s Free. I play with friends/family instead of “griefer’s and strangers. It has weather, news, internet browsing as well as other channels (and more being added as time goes on). It gives more than the other 2 consoles out of the box and costs less.

Nintendo does not give me what I think I want. They surprise me by giving me what I did not know I wanted. They innovate, surprise and try to take an original approach. They do it with their hardware and they do it with their games. Nintendo is a leader, not a follower.

SSBB would not be better on PS3 or 360.
Life would be better for Xbox 360 & PS3 owners, if they could play SSBB on those respective systems.

When you spend a lot more money on 360 (+ LIVE subscription) or PS3, you may feel that something is missing. You start wishing you had games like SSBB to play on them. [If this is what the author meant, who could disagree] I also missed the type of games that Nintendo offered when I HAD a 360.

What kind of lousy writing is that? Are you certain it would be better on PS3 or XBOX? Or do you just think it would be likely?

In any case, Nintendo is a software AND a hardware company. Statements like this are useless because the Smash series and the characters are married to the hardware, and would never appear on other consoles. In fact, the reason I bought a Wii has nothing to do with the controls; it’s because of the first party titles I knew would come. Maybe what you mean is that if the Wii was more powerful, the game would be better. And if the Wii was more powerful, it would be more expensive, would sell less, and would provide Nintendo less profit to maximize games like Smash Bros.

You’re absolutely right. Thats why I said the following:

“So, sure, 360 and PS3 are targeting a different market, but only different in that its much narrower. The Wii is targeting a different market in that its targeting everyone.”

Its all part of the same market. Thats why its crazy to say these consoles are not somehow competing with each other. The people who try to segment the market are the people trying to rationalize that the Wii is selling so much better than the other too, and those are mostly just fanboys who feel bad that a last gen piece of hardware is massively outselling their baby.

Here’s the deal. Every generation, one console, more than the others gets the attention of consumers and sells many more units. Last gen it was the PS2, before that the PS1, before that the SNES and NES. This gen, that console looks to be the Wii. Thats neither good nor bad. It’s just the market. The only people who care are fanboys. Bring on the great games, us non-partisan gamers don’t care where the great games come from or which console sells the most.