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	<title>Comments on: Cybercrime: Will WoW Become A New Stage For Money Laundering?</title>
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		<title>By: Magnus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magnus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my early days at EA/Origin I had discussions with some very dubious folks at the nations top security groups(think 3 letter acronyms) around the potential for terrorists to actually use MMOs as a means of communications. At the time the CIA had a program called Eschelon which basically monitors every digital and analog communication channel world wide. The program basically was an uber filter that looked for key phrases, etc. there was lots of speculation around the program at the time but its pretty common knowledge now. Of course these guys could not confirm or deny anything including the existence of cheese but anyway its pretty clear that the scope of large scale MMO and the anonomity they provide would indeed be a perfect haven for this type of criminal activity. Its really easy to conver gold and items into cash. I have banned thousands of folks for it over my years in this space.  :twisted:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my early days at EA/Origin I had discussions with some very dubious folks at the nations top security groups(think 3 letter acronyms) around the potential for terrorists to actually use MMOs as a means of communications. At the time the CIA had a program called Eschelon which basically monitors every digital and analog communication channel world wide. The program basically was an uber filter that looked for key phrases, etc. there was lots of speculation around the program at the time but its pretty common knowledge now. Of course these guys could not confirm or deny anything including the existence of cheese but anyway its pretty clear that the scope of large scale MMO and the anonomity they provide would indeed be a perfect haven for this type of criminal activity. Its really easy to conver gold and items into cash. I have banned thousands of folks for it over my years in this space.  <img src='http://news.filefront.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':twisted:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ron Whitaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Whitaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@max:  No misread.  I&#039;m simply saying that unlike SL, WoW provides no ready means for the user to withdraw from their in-game accounts.  SL users can actually request their Linden Dollars be transferred to US dollars and sent to their bank. 

To pull money from WoW in the same way requires selling virtual items outside the game, which will get you a visit from the banhammer.  It wouldn&#039;t be a very efficient or foolproof way to launder money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@max:  No misread.  I&#8217;m simply saying that unlike SL, WoW provides no ready means for the user to withdraw from their in-game accounts.  SL users can actually request their Linden Dollars be transferred to US dollars and sent to their bank. </p>
<p>To pull money from WoW in the same way requires selling virtual items outside the game, which will get you a visit from the banhammer.  It wouldn&#8217;t be a very efficient or foolproof way to launder money.</p>
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		<title>By: weclock</title>
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		<dc:creator>weclock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you talking about? I&#039;m already laundering my money with WoW brand detergent...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you talking about? I&#8217;m already laundering my money with WoW brand detergent&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wyatt</title>
		<link>http://news.filefront.com/cybercrime-will-wow-become-a-new-stage-for-money-laundering/comment-page-1/#comment-26431</link>
		<dc:creator>Wyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woah, someone missed the EVE Intergalactic Bank ENTIRELY XD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woah, someone missed the EVE Intergalactic Bank ENTIRELY XD</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;considering that all the money in WoW is virtual&quot;

I think you misread this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;considering that all the money in WoW is virtual&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you misread this.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey thanks for giving us such great ideas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey thanks for giving us such great ideas!</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Whitaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Whitaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see how such activities could take place in Second Life, where money can actually be withdrawn, but considering that all the money in WoW is virtual, I doubt this type of thing could ever catch on in that game.  

Of course, they could try the &#039;selling gold for real money&#039; trick, but that&#039;s a good way to get your account banned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see how such activities could take place in Second Life, where money can actually be withdrawn, but considering that all the money in WoW is virtual, I doubt this type of thing could ever catch on in that game.  </p>
<p>Of course, they could try the &#8217;selling gold for real money&#8217; trick, but that&#8217;s a good way to get your account banned.</p>
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