No reason to be insulting, i was just giving an opinion.

Until i see the numbers i’m simply not convinced, needing proof is not ignorance…believing any random thrown out however is.

Saying anything more would be just repeating myself.

Go Marlins!!!!

Yes your right it is a lot of pirating and i fully agree that pirating is a large industry, but i’ve done some checking myself and frankly the numbers for Crysis simply don’t add up.

Worldwide this title (Crysis) sold a litle over one million copies, which isn’t very good in today’s industry…Half Life 2 sold over sixteen million units….Halo 3 sold three million units in tweleve days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crysis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Life_2

Now, Crytek is trying to convince people that twenty million people have pirated this game….can i believe this number? sure…..for a game like Half Life 2.

I checked up on Crysis on a popular non-torrent site, in 56 days the game was downloaded three times…nowhere near the 20-1 figure this man is boasting about.

IMHO Crytek is talking less about piracy being an actual problem and rather using it as an excuse for lackluster sales, no mention of Far Cry which i’ll bet anything was pirated just as much if not more than Crysis….Crysis was a very costly game and i think Cevat Yerli is just using it as an excuse to multi-platform.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/870/870416p1.html

As police can´t stop crime, industry can´t stop piracy, protection only slows down piracy. And if you need the numbers, then visit russia and go to local supermarket/subway. U can buy pretty mutch every game for price of 1$ in there, and i saw (and bought), there were WoW, Half-Life 2, all with working serials. T

Think about it.

Console piracy exists as well (as evidenced by Dr. Obey’s d-bag coworker), but to an infinitely smaller degree. If you were to spend 10 million bucks on producing a game would you like to go retail on PCs and have your game pirated as much as 15 to every 1 game bought, or would you go to console where piracy is extremely minimal?

Piracy is clearly the driving force behind PC gaming’s decline.

Console games are pricey, because they are hard to copy; PC games are easy to copy, thus they are way cheaper than console ones, because their value for customer is lower (as they can get it from elsewhere, thus not being dependent on the single publisher). That’s a “market” thing, and “market” is supposed to be a good thing in capitalism, isn’t it?

but then again that stat was made up on the spot too

also, you don’t have to spend $50+ dollars on a game thinking you’ll like it…try the demo…

for instance, i tried the Bioshock demo, and i liked it…but found out my system isn’t right for it (not enough graphics card to handle it)…so i didn’t waste money on the game only to need a graphics upgrade

and yes, pirating is an issue…when Kane’s Wrath on the PC was gold and a few days away from release (and a lot of us having RA3 beta keys too i might add), the game was leaked, and people were already having fun while those of us that actually pinched our pennies a little bit, were waiting to honestly be in EA’s good graces

so yeah, it’s a problem

Crytek has got their head so far up their own ass on this one. They made a generic shooter with ridiculous system specs so that no one would realize how terrible it was. 2K isn’t bitching about Bioshock being pirated, hell Bioshock and Spore just removed their Securom protection that everyone was bitching about.

Crytek is just completely jaded by their own smug world view.

YOUR GAME WAS NOT THAT GOOD. PLEASE JUST ADMIT IT AND MOVE ON.

Trying to blame others for your short comings is just childish. When people first play your game (pirated or not) they will tell others by word of mouth wether it’s good and worth $50 or not. This game was not worth $50. Thus it would seem more people pirated it just to see how it was.

All in the all the genral consensus is this… Make a good game and people will buy it (Sins of the Solar Empire, Mass Effect, etc).

Piracy is a problem, no doubt…but i have to agree with the majority on this one….it seems to me that Crytek is talking less about piracy being an actual problem and rather using it as an excuse for lackluster sales.

What’s my reasoning behing it? well it’s quite simple really….Far Cry was a very good seller for Crytek…if this number is to be believed 730,000 within four months.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Cry

Now i’m 1000% certain this game was pirated quite a bit and probably still is….yet then don’t even bother to mention it…strange wouldn’t you say?

Crysis cost them quite a bit, the sales are meger to say the least and considering the time, manpower, and cost…..i would be looking for a scapegoat too.

Did Crysis kind of suck? Yes, but that isn’t the issue here. Crysis was still a AAA budget, and if you don’t believe it got pirated like crazy than you are a fool. PC Devs are going to stop making AAA budget (non MMO) titles if the piracy continues, and then we all lose.